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Max Plageus
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Have you considered adding the Septuagint Gematria to your site? I think that would definitely make for a more thorough study of the Scriptures. Perhaps also some of the other books like Jubilees, Enoch, etc., but certainly the Septuagint. I myself have been using your site since I found it the beginning of this year and have used Gematria numbers from the Septuagint passages with interesting results. I had previously used Bible Wheel, but then it was taken down i believe last year. I then used The prophetic timeline website, but it no longer loaded one day, and stayed that way. And that is when I discovered yours. Keep up the good work, hopefully your website is permanent. Because of Gematria i have comed to love math and numbers rather than hate them most of my life. Praise God!


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Alexander Marcussen
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No, I have not considered doing that. I have considered uploading a WLC that is not an interlinear Hebrew English version.
But I am afraid that everything costs money here since I have hired a programmer to do the programming part on this website.
And my funds went in the toilet because of the Crypto crash as I was locked into an investment that took way longer than anticipated. 
So I am going for plan B now, and that is learning computer programming myself. And that will take time... A long time as even smart people find that stuff difficult. 

I do find the Septuagint very interesting though as it was translated by the order of Alexander the Great himself. Alexander did this because the Hebrews showed him that he was found and described in Daniel's prophecies after he conquered Israel. You can read about that here: theTrumpet.com | World News, Economics and Analysis Based on Bible Prophecy
I believe the Hebrews expected Alexander to conquer them because of this prophecy, Alexander was clearly fascinated by the prophecy in Daniel as the Greek translation: The Septuagint became the first translation of the Old Testament (the Bible in ancient times).
I think the Septuagint would be interesting to study, but I don't care about its gematria values. I checked the Greek spelling of "seven hundred seventy and seven" in the Septuagint for a while ago and saw its value = 1925. And I did find some codes to that in the WLC. But don't think that 1925 is important to know in the WLC codes, it's more like a tiny bonus. 

Another interesting thing is that the Greek Septuagint does not mention the book of Jasher that the WLC mentions.
And Because of that, I would say the WLC has been corrupted by Hebrews. But I don't think the Hebrews corrupted many verses, just a few.

This website needs maintenance as the wonderful PHP programming language has a big update every 2 years. Updates are a curse to this website because when PHP decides to update its language then the tools of this website may stop working. I updated the PHP once on this website and that messed up stuff... I will probably have to update the PHP in the coming new year and boy am I not looking forward to that. It will be a bit costly to get my tools up and running again as I won't be able to fix it all.
Adding the Septuagint will kind of make the nightmare worse and I don't need that now. I don't think the Septuagint or any other alternative text is vital to Bible codes research either. The only other text I should have here is a WLC that is original without the KJV ordering of verses. 

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Well, I think I took a bit water over my head there. I tried checking two different versions of the Septuagint now for the Greek spelling of number 777. 
My problem is that it does not say number 777 but 735 in there instead (see Gen 5:31). I know there are different versions of it and I checked the oldest today. I am not knowledgeable about the Septuagint at all so I will simply wave the white flag and say I don't know if it is valid in terms of gematria. I would be surprised if it were, If I can find the version that shows that the spelling of number 777 equals 1925 then I may have some clue if the Septagint is valid or not in terms of gematria and the WLC.
I came over a couple of curious things about number 1925 today.

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I have been doing some serious gematria work in both the Septuagint and Hebrew old testament the past 12 months of so. I was using the Bible Wheel site up to the DAY he shut it dow. I then used a site called The Prophetic Timeline, which was very close to the Bible Wheel setup but it stopped working one day as well. But luckily I found your site the same day. It almost felt like someone or something was trying to stop me, but Yah prevailed! 

The Scriptures quoted in the New Testament from the Old Testament were from the Septuagint, which is why they can sound slightly different from the Hebrew/English. I believe our Father guided the 2-3 century BC Levites and priests to write His words in the most common language that existed and would exist in Jesus' day (just like English was when the King James Bible was written). Greek, being the language of science and philosophy, was perfect for that time- and today for that matter! I personally began studying Hebrew 20 years ago but accelerated it by leaps and bounds the past few years. It is then when I began to dive into the Greek language. Looking into Gematria is what helped my study of both languages. I always had a dislike, no hatred of math and numbers. That finally changed with gematria. Reading through Gematria sites, particularly your site, working with your calculators and number programs has made me very fond of numbers and math, something i though I would always despise. So I thank you and others for changing my mind. 

 

The 1st century Jews did have a meeting to discuss Canon sometime around 97-100 AD, I can't remember the name but it is then that they altered Scriptures in the Hebrew in order to discredit Messianic passages. I have also seen research that the Masoretic was actually the Hebrew translation of the Greek Septuagint, so that there is no true Hebrew bible translations left. 

But I understand the tremendous work that would have to go into adding the Septuagint to your site. Just the work that i have done into it, i believe it would be amazing to take on such challenge.  There is most definitely a mathematical pattern in the Septuagent that works with the New Testament Greek and the Hebrew/Aramaic Old Testament. Maybe some day, perhaps I could even help in some way.

Have a blessed day! 

 

 

 


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@desmild There has been some pretty good research done that shows that the book of the Upright(Yasher) was actually the book of Jubilees, not the corrupt book of "Jasher " that many are familiar with today (which i personally believe is forgery, designed to cause discord among Bible believing groups). Jubilees, on the other hand fit hand in glove with Torah teachings, even correcting Genesis in a few places, and lining up with the Septuagint and the Gospel of Luke when it comes to the mysterious descendant of Kainam(Cainan), the TRUE SON OF ARPHAXAD, not SALAH.

1st WITNESS [Septuagint] Gen. 10:22, 24; 11:12-13;

2ND WITNESS [Septuagint] 1 Chron. 1:2)

3ND WITNESS[Jubillees] 9:1-5

4TH WITNESS [Luke] 3:35-36).

FOUR WITNESSES BEATS THE WITNESS OF GENESIS 10:24; 11:12

 

Kainan was removed from the Hebrew Genesis, but why? 

 

The answer:

because he was the one who brought the teachings of the Watchers back from the Floods destruction. He secretly wrote down their teachings that had been inscribed into stone before the Flood and then hid his sinful deeds from his grandfather Noah. He brought superstition, occult knowledge, idol worship, astrology, and surely many false doctrines which became the false religions of today. There is nothing new under the sun(Eccl. 1:9) And the 1st century Pharisees removed Cainin from their Hebrew Bibles because he represented them and their Nephilim teachings, so they hid Kainan(=works, wealth) corrupted Genesis, and some Messianic Scriptures to hide their true alliegence and worship to the pagan god Ashima of Hamath, aka HASHEM( 2 Kings 17:30-31), NOT the God of the Bible, YAHUAH our ELOIHIM. THE Name Pharisees to this day refuse to pronounce or write, claiming it is too holy. Then heretically, they changed יהוה to LORD, LORD, or Baal, being a cheap title and not a name, while calling on Ashima(Hashem) in their prayers, claiming it only means The Name"... yea the name of a pagan demon god! 

We must restore the integrity of the scriptures and take what the Pharisees have stolen, corrupted, and destroyed.


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I am happy you found my website so quick then 🙂 
Yes, the tools make it less tedious to work with numbers and find codes, and it's faster also.

And you clearly have much more experience with the Septuagint than me.
If you know how to do SQL and PHP data programming then you can add the Septuagint on my website.
I can't do that myself & adding the features like total value, number of words...
If you don't know SQL & PHP programming and got money, sure we can get that fixed. You will even get it cheap as most of the features are written so getting the methods of the Septuagint is no problem. The only tedious thing would be to add the accented Greek letters that we miss found in the Septuagint.
If you find the Septuagint in SQL format then it will be the cheapest way to it. I think we could get that for something like 250 dollars to 1000 dollars depending on what features you would want to be included. I mean it might go down to 150 dollars if you find it in SQL.
But you are paying for that in this case as the Septuagint is really not something I will work with. 
But I am giving you the offer and you can talk to my computer programmer yourself and negotiate a price if you want.
This website is going nowhere and I have paid for the host of this website until 2026. And I can't pay for a longer time until 2026 now.

As for the book of the Upright, thank you for that information. Will look more into that someday. 
I am probably going to write more in this post after I have looked into that.


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Sorry it took so long for me to respond. I didn't realize you had responded back. I might be interested in helping out. Unfortunately I don't believe I've done any SQL or PHP work, but I am a fast learner.

In my personal work, I use Ellopos.net and Katabiblon.com for the Septuagint. Occasionally I find words in Katabiblon that I don't find in Ellopos, which is strange. It's pretty rare though. 

Somethings that I've found interesting is the language used in Exodus 25-30. There are quite a few Greek words used that don't just describe a building project, tools, and supplies, but rather biology & electronics. Words like συνάψεις synapses, πήχεων picheon- cubits( reminds me of pixels, or Q-bits), εύρος euros€?( meaning length; but very rarely used in Septuagint), συναπτούσης synaptousis, ασεπτόν aseptic, συνθεσιν synthesis(when referring to the making of the perfume and anointing oil), and a whole lot more. It's as if God is giving instructions on building not just a tabernacle, but the human body as well.

And the Septuagint uses a lot of words that don't get defined for some reason. Which has caused me to do it myself...incredible stuff!

And in Daniel, WOW I have found some incredible words that explain our current global stranglehold and the covid 19/vaccine/biowarfare, as well as in Ezekiel 24. 

Whetever help I can be, let me know. I hate for this work to vanish into the dustbin of history.


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